Lead Developer, Stardock Entertainment

Some people with Dual core machines may notice models spinning too quickly or jitters.

Here's a link to a driver update that may solve the problem, from the other thread.

For those of you with AMD dual core machines, AMD has a driver update that may address this problem: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor Driver for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 Version (exe) 1.2.2.2

www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_13118,00.html



And here are other links taken from the same thread that may be relevant:

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=896256
http://blogs.msdn.com/tparks/archive/2005/05/14/417516.aspx
http://forums.seriouszone.com/showpost.php?p=688033&postcount=139


Update: AMD no longer offers a dual core driver, but the optimizer should do the job.


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on Apr 23, 2007
Here is a link to AMD support that clarifies the dual-core timing issue:

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:TpxyxwiscEkJ:developer.amd.com/assets/TSC_Dual-Core_Utility.pdf+dual+core+timing+problems&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us

on Apr 25, 2007
Thank you, took me ages to figure out what that was. but ive kind of grown use to it now and i cant download anything from www.GalCiv2.com because my stupid serial number isn't working, could you help me with that, Please, it's driving me nutts.
Private message me if you are willing to help.
on Apr 25, 2007
and i cant download anything from www.GalCiv2.com because my stupid serial number isn't working


If you're having a serial/account issue, contact support@stardock.com.
on Jun 10, 2007
I've noticed a couple of little details that might help someone having mysterious ctd running DA ...

My anti-virus doesn't like the dwwin.exe starting a new process. For some reason, for instance when I clik turn, a new process is started (sometimes, not every time) by dwwin.exe ... the only ctd I get is not from the cpu or the system, but from the anti-virus blocking the new process being started, because it's a suspicious behavior.

With GCIIDA on fullscreen, the "blocked such and such" pop-ups are not visible, so I didn't have a clue. It was only when I dropped DA to a window that I could see them. Same for the firewall pop-ups when trying to post to the Metaverse. You may want to try DA in a window, see if any pop-ups have been hiding behind fullscreen.

Graphics are a little jerky sometimes, but no big slowdowns. GCIIDA 1.59[b].098, WinXP without the hotfix,AMD 6000+ cpu (with the timer update and the Cool&Quiet update), crosshair mobo, nvidia7950gt - works great, no probs except that mentioned above, even on gigantic maps.

P.S. - the way to get GCIIDa into a "window" is to go in the game and change the screen size under 'esc>>options>>video', then restart the game.
on Jun 11, 2007
My anti-virus doesn't like the dwwin.exe starting a new process. For some reason, for instance when I clik turn, a new process is started (sometimes, not every time) by dwwin.exe


Doctor Watson (dwwin.exe) should only open on a crash anyways, so I'd say it's more likely a symptom of the crash than a cause.
on Jun 13, 2007
AMD Driver update worked and fixed the problem. Thanks!
on Mar 15, 2008
Having a crash issue with an intel dual-core. Picked up a Gateway 6730 Laptop with a Dual core intel 2330. Game runs fine, no graphics issues thn just drops out. Windows comes up tryig to solve the problem but doesn't find anything. Will be searching out if a need to update the drivers.

Below is the debug which says something about not finding something. Not sure if that might be the issue.

Anyone help???

Debug Message: Version v1.0 last updated on: Mon Feb 6 12:52:05 2006
Debug Message: Could not find a TGN Serial No.
Debug Message: *********DXDiag info follows.*********
System Info
Time: 3/12/2008, 20:53:03
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
Machine Name: KOBI-PC
Operating System: Windows Vista
Languages: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gateway
System Model: MT6730
BIOS: Rev 1.0
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T2330 @ 1.60GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.6GHz
Physical Memory: 2038MB RAM
Page File: 874MB used, 3420MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows


Display Info
Display device 1:
Device Name: \\.\DISPLAY1
Card Name: Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip Type: Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family
DAC Type: Internal
Key Device: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A02&SUBSYS_0368107B&REV_03
Display Memory: 448 MB
Current Display Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Max Resolution:
Driver Name: igdumd32.dll
Driver Version: 7.14.0010.1268
Driver Date: 4/30/2007 05:39:58
DirectX Acceleration Enabled: Yes



Sound info
Sound device 1:
Description: Speakers / Headphones (SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_8384&DEV_7690&SUBSYS_107B0368&REV_1022
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Driver Name: stwrt.sys
Provider: SigmaTel
Driver Version: 6.10.5365.0000
Driver Date: 1/30/2007 00:37:46
Type: WDM
Other Drivers:
Acceleration Level: 1
Cap Flags: 0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0



Debug Message: *********END dxdiag info.*********
Debug Message: Entering WinMain
Debug Message: ******* Starting Game Shell *******
Debug Message: Going Fullscreen
Debug Message: Preparing to change display settings.
Debug Message: Multisample Type chosen in prefs not supported. Forcing a supported type.
Debug Message: Using multilsample setting: D3DMULTISAMPLE_NONE
Debug Message: Game Resolution: 1024 x 768
Debug Message: Running fullscreen.
Debug Message: HAL (sw vp): Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family
Debug Message: D3DPRESENT_INTERVAL_DEFAULT
Debug Message: Refresh rate: 60
Debug Message: Bit Depth: 32 bit.
Debug Message: *********Checking D3DDevice Caps***********************
Debug Message: A full-color cursor is supported in hardware at high resolution modes.
Debug Message: RGB in format 6:6:6, Masks reported as ff0000:ff00:ff
Debug Message: Now Fullscreen
Debug Message: Shell initialization complete
Debug Message: ***** Initializing Game *****
Debug Message: Timer Frequency is 0 da7a64
Debug Message: Initializing sound card.
Debug Message: initailizing bink
Debug Message: Create setup screens.
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Set mouse.
Debug Message: Set update timer.
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Users\kobi\Documents\My Games\GalCiv2\*.StarSystems
*DEBUG ERROR: ***Unable to find required tech ImpossibleTech for PirateShip. ***
*DEBUG ERROR: ***Unable to find required tech ImpossibleTech for Starbase. ***
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Users\kobi\Documents\My Games\GalCiv2\ships\*.shipclass
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Users\kobi\Documents\My Games\GalCiv2\ships\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: Reading Star Names
Debug Message: Reading Star Names... Done
Debug Message: TitleWnd: Quit Button.
Debug Message: Posting WM_CLOSE message.
Debug Message: WM_CLOSE message received.
Debug Message: GameUninitialize start
Debug Message: Killing Galaxy
Debug Message: Killing threads.
Debug Message: Kiling civs.
Debug Message: Killing ships.
Debug Message: Killing rallypoints.
Debug Message: Killing misc objects.
Debug Message: Killing stars.
Debug Message: Killing anomalies.
Debug Message: Killing space resources.
Debug Message: Killing colonies and planets.
Debug Message: killing scenario.
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: Killing Galaxy: Completed
Debug Message: GameUninitialize end
Debug Message: Device not cleared. 1 counts left.
Debug Message: D3D not cleared. 1 counts left.
Debug Message: Destroying Window.
Debug Message: Main Shell terminating normally
on Sep 07, 2008

i had the twitchy spinners.....i have dual core....updated processor driver...its all good now! thnx

on May 30, 2009

i'm sorry to bring old posts to life again but I'm confused. I have Dual core but you've provided these links that lead somewhere other than a download site. It's confusing because i'm afraid of downloading and installing the wrong patch. Can someone provide a direct link to a download for this patch?

on Jun 01, 2009

AMD seems to have overhauled their downloads site. This is the nearest thing I can find on a quick look, let us know if that does the trick for you.

on Jun 02, 2009

Thank for your help but I'm afraid it wasn't the right link.

They have more downloads for my driver than they do webpages on that sight.

on Jun 02, 2009

Hmm, that's the only driver they have for Athlon64s there. You might also give the dual core optimizer a shot.

on Jun 19, 2009

The optimizer worked, thank you Kryo. Sorry I was late getting back to you.

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